Silent Hill Fever Forum
November 20, 2009, 09:01:38 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
News:
 
HomeForumHelpLoginRegister

Pages: [1]   Go Down
Print


Author Topic: Do we truly understand Walter? [spoilers]  (Read 539 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
R
([XconjurerX])
Silent Hill Groupie


Offline Offline

Posts: 18



Awards Stats
« on: August 18, 2006, 04:23:22 AM »

All theories I've heard of Walter Sullivan do not fit into logical sense. I will explain why.

One common theory I've heard is that Walter's ghost unburies himself and drags his corpse to Room 302.
This does not make sense. Why? I'll explain. Walter cannot do this sort of thing unless he does the Assumption first. But then, people's defense would be, that he does, by killing himself with a spoon. Okay...fine, but what about the fact you have  to offer the blood of the ten sinners and the white oil before you offer yourself first? Saying his ghost just dug himself because 'the job isn't finished' is a tad corny. Especially after we've seen Walter suffer from a crushing feeling of guilt from the Locane murders. So people even claim Walter went to Room 302 before he died in jail. This is impossible, he is seen bringing a bag dripping with blood into Room 302 after his known suicide.

Another common theory people make is that the person that died in prison wasn't the actual Walter Sullivan. Which defiantly isn't true. It is the real Walter. When Joseph/ Henry examins his grave, you see the numbers 11121 craved into his coffin. Lost Memories also hints that Walter killed himself with a spoon. And besides, why would Walter waste his time unburying someone as Assumption when it hasn't been done right or the fact that Walter himself has to be Assumption?

The last, and most logical, yet still hard to understand theory I've heard, is that Walter manages to spilt himself into two entities, one innocent, one a serial killer. Their are big problems with this theory too. First of all, how did Walter manage to obtain this power to split? He never has concealed power. Not even visions. And Xuchilbara was never known to have the power to split people, all s/he can do is revitalize people, lead them to the after life, and possibly project delusions. We also know, that Valtiel leaves Walter's mind sometime before SH2. Otherwise, how could James get the Rebirth ending? Or the fact that Valtiel is in SH3. Theirs a hint we travelled into the Abyss. However, the Abyss does not have the power to split people, it only has the power to help people see the truth. And even if Walter did manage to split into two people, why is their only one corpse in Room 302? Why isn't their two? People who support this idea say Walter re-merged but theirs a problem with this idea. First of all, how can you merge with something that is dead? And if Walter managed to merge with his remorseful side, why wouldn't he try to stop himself? I'm sure innocent Walter isn't just gonna let the other Walter finish his wicked acts. And, how do we even know Walter even acquired this power to merge to begin with?

You see....many discrepancies. Maybe someone can prove me wrong otherwise because most of these theories I've heard just don't make complete logical sense.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2006, 03:45:02 PM by R » Logged

I'm Colonel Roy Mustang but you can call me the Flame Alchemist.
 
Silent Wren
Silent Hill Fanatic


Offline Offline

Posts: 291



we were put here to feel joy


Awards Stats
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 08:01:06 AM »

I'm referring to the third theory. There is a suggestion of a split, with the adult Walter and child Walter running around. I think everything that was done after Walter made himself the 11th victim was done by his ghost, not his body, because obviously his corpse was in the wall the whole time. The only thing that bothered me was the fact that he died in the prison and his corpse was somewhere else. That's the great thing about Silent Hill, you can sit down with the theories and still have no logical answer at the end of the day. Dang it!
Logged

we were put here to feel joy
 
Xuchilbara
Closer than Tlalocan
Silent Hill Addict


Offline Offline

Posts: 757



The Aztec Flower


WWW Awards Stats
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2007, 05:35:28 PM »

LM cannot be used as a primary source in english. To furthered this as seen in LM things changed in the storyline after  3, like the fact that the Order has more than one sect is not mentioned in LM.

I came to the conclusion after years is that walter did not kill himself with a soup spoon and they arrested the wrong man... This theory is also suggested by Joseph in Silent Hill 4, because its not plasible with the two Walter grave sites (One in 2 & one in 4) and that he somehow had to be alive for sometime after the murders. After all the Walter the police arrested died in the prison, but we all know the real Walter was buried in the SH orphange. We also know theres plenty of cases where someone admits to a crime they did not do for a number of reasons. After all why would Walter be afraid of Jimmy Stone the red devil, he wasn't afraid of him afterwards was he? That seems strange. Also his body was not in the orphanage, so they arrested the wrong mana nd he as wrongfully convicted or Walter faked his own death, likely a combo of the two.


As for splitting its probaly very similar to SH1, but what a even better example would be is fatal Frame. Within FF1 the mean bad girl of a ghost Kirie is possesed by demons released from hell, because she had a pure heart she split in two after wards. A little girl Kirie who isn't bothered by demons and helps the protaginist and the adult Kirie who is possessed and killing ppl and you have to "help" while dodging her. We all know the younger innocent Walter represents this purity Walter mustv'e had. The second thing is multpile personality disorder, similar to Alessa Walter had a tramuatic childhood. In many cases of this disorder devolaping or splitting yourself into two of more personalties  is a result of trying to repress and handle these tramutic experiences. Somehow Walter split himself either right before or right after he died, likely the ladder. After he "died" he mustv'e obtained "immortality" and converted himself to his world that he had made using the ritual.. I would think that somehow he rerouted his soul/spirit into his world after he died or escaped from this one, rather going to purgotary or hell or some wierd palce like that.
Logged

"Oh it will make you hug Tom and dance with Linda!"
-The Fever
 
Silent Wren
Silent Hill Fanatic


Offline Offline

Posts: 291



we were put here to feel joy


Awards Stats
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 02:01:05 AM »

Tru dat.
Logged

we were put here to feel joy
 
Pages: [1]   Go Up
Print


Jump to:  

Silent Hill Fever Forum © 2008 Silent Hill Fever
Powered by SMF 1.1.10 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC